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YR463 Dramarama with Ragan Fox

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Shownotes by Matt Blender.

Intro from Mrs. Bodenheimer, Holocaust survivor.

M.I.A/Sanford & Sons mashup.

You can still leave me voicemail at 206-888-CUNT.

I feel renewed, but I’m still finding my radio self.

My mentor Larry said that retiring Madge was a good idea.

Creepy Crawly Curry fans have been slithering around the comments section lately.

Check out the fourth Eclectic News Brief on Insane Films.

Ragan calls in.

The Gay Expat has been “assailing” Ragan (his words) in the Eat This Hot Show comments section.

The Gay Expat says that Ragan is attacking Puffy via Cheryl.

Gay Expat says that the common denominator in various podcasting controversies is Ragan.

Ragan says that the Fausto/Mark and Curry controversies are not related to his argument with Puffy.

Ragan was the last one to get on the “kick out Fausto and Mark” bandwagon.

Ragan tells the Gay Expat to shut his hole.

Ragan says that his argument with Puffy is between him and Puffy and it’s no one else’s business.

I won’t take a side in the matter.

I think that both Ragan and Puffy would benefit from seeing each others’ point of view.

Ragan says that listeners are always jumping on their soapboxes.

Ragan’s tired of being a lightning rod for controversy.

I think Ragan should wait a couple weeks and then talk to Puffy.

I also think a big part of this conflict is the issue of persona vs. non-persona and show vs. non-show.

Ragan says that all it took to resolve a conflict with Mikeypod was for Mikeypod to send him an email.

I think that Ragan and I both know who we are and that creates controversy for other people.

Ragan didn’t know that the Gay Expat and Puffy are friends. Now the situation makes more sense to Ragan.

Ragan is going to sic Rachel Kann on Gay Expat.

Wanda stays out of controversy. I want to be more like that.

Ragan’s opinion on why Eat This Hot Show is popular.

Ragan enjoys doing Eat This Hot Show and talking about important issues with Wanda and me.

I think that sometimes you have to protect your own sanity.

Ragan’s idea for a new segment on Eat This Hot Show: responses to listeners’ comments.

Gay Expat is nice, but…

Shows like this one get the most downloads.

These arguments are all fake to generate attention (if only).

Disrespect for the Portable Media Expo attendees.

Guess who was schmoozing at the Podshow Pool Party.

By Madge

Lesbian with food allergies.

72 replies on “YR463 Dramarama with Ragan Fox”

Jesus christ, this is all so fucking juvenille. Ragan/Slocome/Puffy/everyone involved – you all need to get over it, kiss and make up. This fight is stupid, cliquey, repetitive and dull. Like a wise dead woman once said – it’s the Internet and we can’t take anything seriously. On all sides vicious things were said but there are bigger battles to fight.

Richard, I guess I’m glad your listening audience has doubled but it’s really hurtful and offensive how you constantly tell your old loyal fans to go fuck themselves and you shit all over everyone and now it seems your pandering to the prudish, self-absorbed, faux-liberal assholes with waist cancer who bitched about you anonymously on forums for the past two years. If you’re doing the safe, inoffensive, ordinary gay guy act now, could you at least stop being such a fucking cunt to your old cult following just because you’re (understandably) a little bitter and defensive about the backlash. Thanks, I’m glad you love MIA. xoxoxoxox

1) You didn’t read it all, Ragan, which started a chain of misinterpretations. Richards confusion as to the part you didn’t read speaks to that.

2) Poor Ragan. My heart bleeds. You let your mouth rip, you’ve got to be responsible for it. This is why on certain topics I just keep my mouth shut until it means something more than my insighificant opinion and it’s worth the trouble to cause shit.

3) In this case, it meant something and was worth causing shit. I have a profound sense of fair play, and I did take Puffy to task for his part in the matter. I posted the comment because Puffy and others have been coming to me about this shit for a LONG time (months!) and I was tired of people withholding communications, including myself. I am NOT taking sides here, either, but I has opinions on Ragan’s actions LONG before this Puffy vs. Ragan thing came to the fore. This is why I went to Richard the first time, and this is why I made the comments I made today.

4) Richard, you’re a total fucking asshole for drawing conclusions that aren’t necessarily true. But I’ll stick to my principles and be responsible for the impression I gave that I’m some sort of flame war addict. I’m more addicted to watching these train wrecks than participating in them, and have indeed shown you some of the places on the net in which I do that. If I was that into starting shit like that, the tone of my show and videos would be COMPLETLEY different. However, you have NEVER seen me pull that childish bullshit in any of my conversations. I know my activities elsewhere dwell close to what you said and am clearly understanding of how you could draw that conclusion, but it’s just not true. Your attempt to marginalize me was a dud.

5) I apologize for any feelings hurt in all of this. I did my best to speak to the behaviors and not being insulting. The bully and coward thing was a bit overdramatic, and I retract it.

I just need to get one little self-indulgent, selfish FUCK YOU before I close this subject forever. Now I’ll go smoke and be completely responsible for it by paying my increased health insurance premiums.

GayExpat: Your calling me a ‘total fucking asshole’ for accusing you of being a flamer bears the same irony as fundie muslems telling the pope, “Quit calling us violent or we’ll kill you.”

I’ve worked through my phases of grieving for Madge (denial, doubt and anger and all that other BS) Madge had her day in the sun, maybe even two…. mostly… but is there anywhere we can download Mr Zeechies songs about Madge… couldn’t find them on E-music or on the internets(s) …. Please Its all we have to remember her by… I understand about why and where things are going with the show and lets face it , people can be a bunch of ungrateful mutherfuckers. I’m sure that Richard will find his new voice. I personally would like to see a yeastradio turn into more of a watch on politics and the god damn crazy laws the government is passing. Thanks for the time God gave Madge but he even knew that bitch had to die..

Wow! Are you sure this Yeast Radio and not high school girls fighting over something stupid? Ragan, if you want attention, then go do a podcast! And your examples of Puffy saying “nya nya nya” is so enlightening.

The only thing worse than this podcast was me listening to it because I have no life.

WOW! I really think Regan Fox needs to shut HIS hole! I long ago stopped listening to his podcast because of his double talk and stupidity. He obviously doesn’t listen to himself ever. Richard – I love your show – I love you as Madge – I love you as Richard – I love you being political – I love you being down right silly – I mourn with you – I laugh with you – I share in your joy – I share in you sorrow – I support you and others rights to speak your minds and be who you are – however (don’t you always love those howevers?) I can’t continue to listen if you are going to not shut this shit down on your show – it’s not what I listen for! I went thru highschool and have no intention to relive it thru what was an incredible audio and video treasure! This bs is bringing you down Richard. Dump the BS and try it on your own. Please don’t let this crap bring you down anymore!

Again Richard I so love and support you in everything you do. I know I can unsubscribe – and honestly probably won’t even if you continue to involve yourself in this total bullshit. For I support your enormous talent.

Please feel free to contact me at [email protected]

I’m workshopping the show right now. I have no idea where it is going. Ragan is a friend at a very deep level. His humour is deeply funny. I will continue to have him on my show from time to time and if shitty drama is the only thing going on then that’s what we will talk about. My show is hit or miss. Deal with it. I do, however, appreicate the feedback.

Thank you Richard! I appreciate your comments and completely respect your friendship with Regan. And no problem dealing with the hits and misses – please understand – while the Regan whining episode was not one of my favorites — just hearing you and your thoughts and unique views on the situation makes the show worth while! Please! I’ve listen to your shits and enjoyed them more than 99.99% of anything on the radio or television! Regan or not I will ALWAYS be a loyal listener who goes with you no matter where you take me!

Ragan,

Sure, it’s unfair for Expat to get into the middle of your argument with Puffy. But at the same time, it’s unfair to fault us listeners for voicing opinions (uninformed as they might be) about what you put out for public consumption. Yeah, it sucks that “Cheryl” attacks people unprovoked. I’ve told Puffy as much myself. But you also talked about all of this on Eat This Hot Show and now Yeast. I guess this is all a part of the line between persona/non-persona and show vs. non-show that Richard brought up.

And regarding Eat This Hot Show, I don’t really listen to it for the drama. Granted, I did eat up the whole Mark & Fausto controversy because it was really juicy and tabloid-ish. But I REALLY listen to Eat This Hot Show week after week for the same reasons that you like doing it: I love the chemistry between you and Richard and Wanda. I also love listening to your guys’ opinions on current events. I also used to really look forward to finding out which podcaster was going to be guest-hosting on the show. It was really fun to hear some of my other favorite podcasters interacting with you three. But lately you all haven’t been having guests and when you do have guests, you all don’t do a very good job of including them in the discussion.

Richard, I am thrilled that you decided to put Madge to rest. I don’t know you personally but I can see how maintaining that character could become invasive to your own personality in a pathological way. I will say that for me, hearing you is so refreshing and I am loving it. One of my favorite podcasts of yours from the past was when you addressed the Adam Curry flame war on insane films as richard and not as madge. I found your candor so welcoming and I was thinking then that you were better as yourself than as madge. I applaud your decision.

As for this whole ETHS thing. I think you took a very zen-like and mature approach with Ragan on the phone. This isn’t your problem anymore and I appreciate your willingness to say “this is old, lets get over it.” Someone made a comment earlier that this discussion is so tired and cliquey and I have to agree wholeheartedly. There are more topics, both banal and urgent, to speak about on ETHS and on your podcast than this one. Furthermore I find it utterly absurd that Ragan was calling you to discuss this. I understand him wanting your support as a friend but, from my point of view, his language is one of a prosecutor leading a witness into making statements they don’t believe in. I don’t understand why Ragan is even keeping score of all the things that are said of him. I’ve had my fair share of verbal abuse from childhood even to the present and I just say “water off a duck’s back.” It must be really tiresome keeping score of all the bad things said about you over the course of six months, I don’t know where Ragan gets the energy to do it.

i actually found this show very interesting and entertaining and was almost dissapointed when it was over. i really like the free-flowing discussion, no matter how insignificant the subject may be. personally i dont care who said what or why and when and how many times, i just think it’s a fascinating conversation to listen to. it’s a perfect example of why i like podcasting as a medium.

I better clarify myself before I get flamed. I’m not trying to encourage more fighting, but if individuals choose to fight in public – and one way and another they both have – then I enjoyed and appreciated the way Richard did his level best to defuse the situation and not take sides.

I suspect Madge would have been less humane.

Ultimately we’re all a long time dead, so can we all just get on with the living part, right?

kisses. tp

This was a good show again, thanks . Is it okay to say I miss Madge ? because I do, I wish I could give her a hug so tight she breaks a little wind.
It’s weird I see her in my thoughts in a hospital bed lifeless looking like a vegetable – give that bitch another shot, give her a donkey dick – I wanna hear one last bedside podcast please – even if it’s a short goodbye podcast, this hurts (hurts and smells).

It’s been a week, I can’t think straight, today I left a tip at Macdonalds.

Madge If you ‘re reading this in bed on a cunt-top I miss you my lovely lesbian vegetable, I love you, it sickens me to know you’re in a hospital bed alone lying in your own piss and vomit when you could be in your chicago apartment lying in piss and vomit with a donkey dick talking to us in that big beautiful vegetable voice xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

holy fuck i just realised madge is posting here yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fuck me that bitch still alive !

God damn! … Ragan needs a Ativan! maybe the whole bottle!?! Get over it… hon please! Shit hurts, yes… so more on. Old news makes me sleepy. Also, have some trust in your listeners, even the ones who don’t like you. And so what if they do or don’t! Who fuckers cares!! This is not a theatre class (filled with drama-queens) or maybe it is!?! Lawrd, I thought I would try to give Yeast another try… another listen. ugh! I can’t even finish listening to this show.

WOW~! You’ve managed to alienate yourself throughout the gay podcasting world! First the lovely boys at Feast of Fools and now you’re just being a spineless pussy and “Mr. That Doesn’t Involve Me”. You have no guts anymore and your show is just BORING. You just don’t know how to take a stand anymore on anything. But guess what? This doesn’t interest listeners. AND, after listeners get over all of this drama, your downloads will be less than they were before all of this stupidity happened. HAHA

Um… This doesn’t make sense. If you’re so uninterested, and you think this is boring, why are you getting so worked up?

Bitchface – chill out, life’s too short, take a gigantic poo and rid your body of this angry lil devil.

Mister Bitchface regarding the above Richard quote “Even if I have a side, I’m not gonna take it.” Richard could have been referring to:
A side of salad
An uneven sideburn
or many many many different things.
I feel there are more relevant issues to be thinking about these days:
Madge Weinstein Possibly Dying
An Uneven Sideburn
A Side of Salad
Thanks

Adam, youre retated. the only reason you dont keep a tally on the shit talked about you is because it constanly is thrown at you from left and right. youre dumbass couldnt even answer a stupid question that Ragan asked you on that particular show, I bet you stll cant.

the gay expat needs to stfu with the blah blah blah stop attacking puffy bullshit. If you had any sense you would see that Ragans conversation with Richard is harldy the topic at hand when this show started so stop your whining about Ragans complains. You need to talk to your weird ass freind “puffy blubber cunt” about unwanted criticism, as i specifically remember the shows puffy and mikeypod would talk shit about Ragan and his decisions to leave podcasting for a while, whenever Wanda would have her little group shows with them. Or about him having the Cheryl character and not owning his shit through it. Youre not looking at the full picture, period.

to say that Ragan is the common denominator of all these problems, and that he is the problem, is a bunch a bullshit.

Yes! Completely overlook puffys bullshit and straight to Ragan… lol… sounds easy, but seeing as hes not responding I’m pretty sure he’s just tired of virtually bitchslapping you around these forums as he has until now.

Anyway go listen to the interview Wanda did with Ragan, after she started with Lavender (LBR #268), and there is the full explanation of how Ragan is perceived by everyone, and why he makes the decisions he makes. I wouldn’t be surprised if changed his show completely with all this hate spawning…

I WOULD LOVE TO LISTEN TO THAT EPISODE (AS A CONFIRMED REGAN HATER – I FEEL IT IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE TO HEAR MORE OF HIS SIDE AND WHY I MIGHT BE WRONG IN MY OPINION) HOWEVER ITURD AND WANDA’S SITE DOES NOT GO BACK THAT FAR – ANY HELP FROM ANYONE??

Sorry about the all caps – at work – forgot it was on – too lazy to retype…

yeah ass – i just found it – thanks for the wonderful insite… and what’s so funny about being a regan hater?

A. It’s spelled R-A-G-A-N

B. It’s funny being a “Ragan Hater” because YOU DONT KNOW HIM. haha

all of these Haters are funny because what they hate isnt Ragan, because mostlikely NONE of you know him. What you all hate is the character hes built with FATC, because dense people cant draw the line between his performance, and his crazy personality.

Y’all been watchin’ just a little too much “Fashion House” or “Queer as Folk”.

Sounds like these two queens just need to fuck eachother senseless and get it over with.

I am hesitant to join in here, but would like to do so if only to voice my own part in all of this.

It is no secret that I have spouted more than my fair share of shit about Ragan, both as myself and as Ali Mahajani, and have been rightfully called out on it by him.

After my last discussion with Ragan, I came to realize that I am not okay with treating another person the way that I have treated him. In many ways, I think that my vigor in ridiculing him, especilly as Ali stemmed from a desire to be one of the “cool kids.” After some time of being regarded as “too nice” and “boring” (to quote Madge/Richard) it was fun to be a part of what I now see as a subculture that only served to further divide the gay community, especially in the realm of podcasting.

I think all of us are concerned with our collective rights as GLBT people, in order to move forward, we need to find a way to unify ourselves rather than continue this pettiness. Ragan is an artist and a human being, whether or not I appreciate his work or agree with what he has to say, he deserves to be treated as such.

Kumbaya, fuckers.

You are/were Ali Mahajani? Omigod, I never even suspected, Mikeypod. Does this mean that “Ali” is dead or lying sick somewhere far, far away, too? I love Ali – even if he needs to reform his ways a tad. His singing is particularly appreciated.

The only solution to flaming is to disable comments. As with blogging, they are ruining this new form.

If people have something to say, they can post it on their own site, should they care to stand behind their words with their own reputation, and refer to what they have a problem with using a link to the original source.

Chiming in with abuse on others’ forums is no better than yelling ‘faggot’ from the window of a passing car.

i think it was a mistake to post this as a show. it clearly was a personal phone call from ragan to richard and should have been kept as such. hearing this just fans the fires on this who, dare i say a ragan word, debacle, and we, the audience were meant to listen.

THIS AIN’T NO GODDAMN BUSH WIRE TAP SHOW!

richard, ragan, brad, puffy, jeffrey, etc, we are children. please don’t fight in front of your kids.

Like sands through the hour glass… this is so intense… will you sign my yearbook??… their asses stink. I win! I win!

Richard I’m a fan. I will jump on Oprah’s sofa and defend you throughout the world!

I was sad before, but now I’m starting to laugh out loud thinking about that fat bitch rotting in her hospital bed. I now think it’s the way she would want to go… lying in a pool of her own bile and back fat oozing from the lipo-holes that those Mexican doctors can’t sew up. Amen to my lost love, Madge Weinstein.

Shitface by saying shit to Richard you’re saying shit to Madge, God rest her soul. I have been literally walking around school and telling everyone about Madge’s death and they all feel it. Especially my friends cuz they knew how much I loved her. And I’m sure some of you are going through this too, are you?

oh i give it up i put my thots on eths and I must say richad your show is at an all time high well done soon you’ll be higher up than vod cars with 2’000’000 listeners

glad noww that madge is gone coz you just as 1’000’000’000’000’000 times better than madge, but i still like her and allways will

Richard,

As you know, when I had the opportunity to either interview you or Madge, I chose you. I love the Madge but since I found out who you were (about a year ago) I have found you to be an even more interesting person. I think being Madge you had an opportunity to say things Richard was sometimes too polite to say and it will be interesting to see how balancing this out in real life comes about.

Nonetheless, I’m still a fan and still a friend – that hasn’t changed. And, my son is now old enough to understand “Mr. Bluestein” as well as “Madge Weinstein”. Keep up the nice work, man.

Not that I want to continue to hear about this, considering the whole debate stared on ETHS with Richard’s decision to kill Madge and somehow turned into a Cheryl v. Ragan, but, by allowing Ragan time to express his thoughts, it’s kind of one-sided. Please remember, most Americans won’t take the time to read the Gay Expat’s comments or Ragan’s responses. How else do you explain 8 years of Prince George W. Bush?

Perhaps all of this is part of the mourning phase for Madge.

However, I still love the show. Great move Richard.

So I finally got to hear this episode that people have been talking about. And I don’t get the big deal. It was just a podcast where a friend called a friend who happened to be recording a podcast at the time. I believe that Ragan was talking to Richard as a friend about what he is going through. This is a part of their lives which they have given us a privilege to listen to and be a part of. Not every thing is going to be all fun and a bed of roses. Even roses have thorns and some times we get pricked by them. And it fucking hurts. Words hurt. Especially when they are stabbing at you as a person, as a human being.

There was a time when bigots were constantly leaving hateful comments on my blog and attacking my character because I am gay. It totally stressed me out. And sure it’s easy to say that person is a dumb-ass and I should not care about it. But the fact is it did hurt me. We can not always control how we feel.

I was so frustrated that I posted a comment on EatBird for some support to get this asshole off my site. And the only person from the comment section that backed me up was Ragan Fox and Rachel Kann. Ragan posted a comment saying that guy “…was a waste of skin!” and the waste of skin stopped harassing me. Thank you Ragan and Rachel for your support for me at that time.

Well I’m not coming back to this comment section. So don’t bother replying here. There are a bunch of ugly chains of intension here.

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