19 replies on “YR409 Lesbian Commodification and Vagina Eating with Songstress Amy Abdou – Recorded in Amsterdam”
Its not that I love Keanu Reeves… but that movie had Al Pacino.. and Im a sucker for those dam Pacino longwinded monologues. They should do a vagina monologues but instead of vagina.. they should just have Al Pacino talking about his vagina. er.. im lost in my clever comment. Enjoy Rot-turd-dam
That movie really should have been unwatchable crap, but Keanu Reeves and Al Pacino made it strangely worthwhile… 🙂
The Devil’s Advocate, for some reason, is in the UK broadcast schedules at least three times a month–I kid you not.
I love the ridiculous plot twist that Judith Ivey and Al Pacino did the wild thang and that their one night of passion–which undoubtedly included Lucifer (i.e., Al) soiling every orifice of Judith’s mousey body with his member and demon seed–set poor Judith on an unwavering path toward Our Lord, Jesus Christ. But decades later, she still looks tempted…
That woman from Gladiator, Connie Nielsen, submits herself to antics usually seen only on the Bravo channel after the watershed but the entire thing is an embarrassment to all involved, save Charlize, who does at least make hysteria look pretty.
I liked queer as folk and I took it for what it was, entertainment. Consequently I found the characters to be quite lovable in each of their own rights and I think the show touched on many relevant and contemporary issues with dignity. If you want real life get out of the house and experience real life. Have we gotten so lazy that we have come to expect that media fulfill our experiential needs. You can’t expect media to accurately portray any group of people as they are in reality because the bottom line is that its a product that is being sold so it will always be a caricature.
Madge! You whore! I thought we were going to get together in Amsterdam?! How long are you there for? Should I pay you a visit?
Great show. Love Amy, she’s wonderful and you both sound great. xxso
Sean- I’ll be in Rotterdam for at least a week. Come on by… I can meet you here or in Amsterdam.
Madge, I might book something for Saturday/Sunday through Tuesday. (I have an appt. to keep for this Friday.) I’ll let you know for sure tom’w (Tues. 11/7). Would that work?
Hey Madge: It looks like I can be this weekend from Friday afternoon to Monday afternoon (not that you have to amuse me the WHOLE time). Will you be there this weekend then? Please confirm and I’ll book. Cheers.
Madge, I’m booked. Hope to you see you on Friday. Can you send some contact numbers to my e-mail–check yours, I e-mailed you this morning, whore.
So looking forward to seeing you. xxso
Madge, If you’ve listened to any of my shows or read any of my blog posts you know that I am well aware that this nation had it coming to them, and that if people would put themselves in the position of the rest of the world and think about how our capitalistic imperialism has basically driven people to madness they would understand the motives behind september 11th. However, I cannot seem to stomach your guest’s (Amy Abdou) statement that she was totally unaffected by 9-11 and went about her business like it was any other day. “I have to tell you…September 11th, I really didn’t have that feeling of shock. I kind just went…(sarcastic sigh).” I would like to know if Amy is capable of feeling anything if she didn’t feel something, anything on that day. Any human being with a heart had to have felt something on that day, how could she be “not shocked?” I don’t know if her incredulity to your reaction to 9-11 is intended to impress people but I can say that I for one am not impressed with, what is in my opinion, her faux enlightenment and most of all her frigidity.
Yes, terrible things happen all over the world every day. Yes, there are events that happen all over the world that should be covered more closely and people should be more upset about genocide in Darfur and our nations inability to protect its citizenry from natural disaster. But to say that what happened on 9-11 was less of a deal than all of the other things that happen in the world is myopic and naive. ALL of these terrible things deserve equal attention and equal outrage because they are all crimes against humanity. Perhaps when Amy comes down from her ivory tower she’ll begin to see all tragedies with an unprejudiced eye.
“Thats my biggest frustration when I go home. That there are like minded people but they can’t get motivated to do anything.” Doing things like what? Like moving to another country and then saying how voting is a joke right before you inform us of your plans to go to a spa in Thailand to get a colonic.
“Its very interesting how the reaction of 2000 white businessmen getting killed is so different from 100000 poor Indonesians or black people for that matter in Louisiana.”
-Madge Weinstein
WTF?! Its all the same, its horrible tragic death and its beyond race, class, sexuality, and boundaries. Stop catagorizing human life, all lives lost are valuable and none should be ranked more than the other. You have the power to do good by bringing attention to these horrible events that don’t get attention and motivate your listeners to care about ALL human beings.
Adam,
We are just telling our opinions and feelings on these matters. I dont’ really put much value in arguments against people’s such subjective things. I am glad that Amy is able to offer her opinions without the fear of being called unpatriotic which I imagine she might have been more likely to succumb to had she stayed in the U.S.
As for me, I stand by that quote you wrote of me. I think you’re not understanding the meaning of my words. We are in agreement that all life is equal. I have no argument there. How you interpret my words to not mean what I meant is beyond me.
So anyway. You really don’t know Amy. I do. She is a realy human- just as real as you or I and just as sensitive. Her opinions are different and that doesn’t make her a vapid monster, even if she does get her colon rinsed every now and again.
Adam, I think it’s funny that you’re basically calling Amy Abdou myopic and naive because she didn’t respond to the events of 9/11 in the same way that you did, which seems far more myopic of you–if you even felt that way. The way that 9/11 has been cynically packaged and utilised by the Bush administration to meet their own ends, it’s hard to believe that five years on anyone could believe that your tub-thumping depiction has any purity as an emotional response. Your post here is really the web equivalent of a redneck in Ohio driving their pick-up all over someone’s lawn just because they had a John Kerry sign posted in their front yard. It’s as if you need people like Amy to feel something because, deep down inside, you know you don’t.
Shock and numbness are very common in traumatic situations, among other responses; what Amy really expressed was a disbelief and lack of engagement, something a lot of people felt, certainly after the so-called election in 2000. For a lot of us, 9/11 was just the other shoe that we were anticipating would drop. She expressed her response to an event, she didn’t claim to be void of any sorrow towards those who died or wish them ill. And considering the events that it triggered, she expressed a bafflement that is quite common for thinking people: how did they get to here…from there? Why did the deaths of 3,000 people necessitate the further death of 100s of 1000s more…? All credit to Amy but I don’t think that particular view marks her out as beyond the fringe or even beyond the pale, as you would have it.
And I think Amy and Madge beat you to the punch on her “sociopathic disengagement” to the event. In times like these, it’s best not to lose your sense of humour.
And as for voting? It is a joke, of course. Voting is like playing your part in maintaining the illusion of democracy; when there’s no veracity, what’s the point? Americans don’t care. They’re content to watch the drama as it unfolds but actually participate, demonstrate, riot? Now you’re joking.
I think it rather presumptious to tell me what I feel deep down inside soleil. Most of my family lives in NYC, I had cousins that worked in the WTC. As a child growing up in NYC I used to look out from Staten Island to Manhattan and just stare in awe at the skyline, it meant a lot to me. To tell me that I didn’t feel anything, and that I don’t feel anything and that I need Amy to feel for me is utterly absurd and off the mark. I felt so much on that day and I still feel and long before the people in middle of the country were told to feel by the administration as a way to rally support for the illegal war in Iraq.
Now you’re all doing a lot of finger pointing and saying that voting in a joke and that democracy is an illusion, so what are you suggestions for change? You are all very intelligent informed people but all you have to offer is advice on A. how to flee america and B. what the root of all this is. That has its place and its valid but lets do something about the terrible things in this world and lets try and change them rather than running away and turning around shaking our heads going tsk tsk tsk and playing the blame game.
I think the blogging / podcasting / universal conversation thing is working.
In this conversation we have no less than four participants and with each with a different perspective probably due to geographic location, life experiences and even level of paranoia and anxiety. The beautiful thing about this is with all of these different perspectives we ALL get a better handle on what the problem actually is as opposed to getting it from only one side, hence defeating the efforts of those who wish to unfairly and unjustly control the masses.
Argue some more because with this intelligent and civil arguing we receive global understanding and awareness.
I don’t think justification of your response to 9/11 is required. Nor do I understand why you feel the need to wield it like a weapon and oppress others with it.
I don’t believe it is my duty to resolve the mess that is the result of decades of American imperialism–that burden falls squarely on Bicycle Mark’s shoulders.
Lastly, in terms of advice, I would borrow from the great poet Virgil and say: “Hope on, and save yourself for prosperous times.”
Who dere call ma name?
Seriously.. I agree this whole shit falls on my shoulders. I promise to do what I can to fix america from the outside.
On 9/11.. my neighborhood collected toothpaste, gloves, surgical masks, jackets, disposable razors, and powerbars. And then the EMT’s or someone drove them across the river to the WTC site.
I was tempted to start brushing my teeth and eat up all the power bars.
Thats my story for tonight.
Sorry Madge, I’m all over this board. I really loved this show. Amy sounds like Annie Hall and she was a great contributor; funny, warm, human, intelligent, honest, direct…in a word, lovely.
This is why I is love that fat bitch Madge so much! Good topic that get many response, encourage opening of dialog, and present many future discussion. Not sure if purple is your color though. Keep up your good work Madge, Adam, Soneil, and Mike C.!
19 replies on “YR409 Lesbian Commodification and Vagina Eating with Songstress Amy Abdou – Recorded in Amsterdam”
Its not that I love Keanu Reeves… but that movie had Al Pacino.. and Im a sucker for those dam Pacino longwinded monologues. They should do a vagina monologues but instead of vagina.. they should just have Al Pacino talking about his vagina. er.. im lost in my clever comment. Enjoy Rot-turd-dam
That movie really should have been unwatchable crap, but Keanu Reeves and Al Pacino made it strangely worthwhile… 🙂
The Devil’s Advocate, for some reason, is in the UK broadcast schedules at least three times a month–I kid you not.
I love the ridiculous plot twist that Judith Ivey and Al Pacino did the wild thang and that their one night of passion–which undoubtedly included Lucifer (i.e., Al) soiling every orifice of Judith’s mousey body with his member and demon seed–set poor Judith on an unwavering path toward Our Lord, Jesus Christ. But decades later, she still looks tempted…
That woman from Gladiator, Connie Nielsen, submits herself to antics usually seen only on the Bravo channel after the watershed but the entire thing is an embarrassment to all involved, save Charlize, who does at least make hysteria look pretty.
I liked queer as folk and I took it for what it was, entertainment. Consequently I found the characters to be quite lovable in each of their own rights and I think the show touched on many relevant and contemporary issues with dignity. If you want real life get out of the house and experience real life. Have we gotten so lazy that we have come to expect that media fulfill our experiential needs. You can’t expect media to accurately portray any group of people as they are in reality because the bottom line is that its a product that is being sold so it will always be a caricature.
Madge! You whore! I thought we were going to get together in Amsterdam?! How long are you there for? Should I pay you a visit?
Great show. Love Amy, she’s wonderful and you both sound great. xxso
Sean- I’ll be in Rotterdam for at least a week. Come on by… I can meet you here or in Amsterdam.
Madge, I might book something for Saturday/Sunday through Tuesday. (I have an appt. to keep for this Friday.) I’ll let you know for sure tom’w (Tues. 11/7). Would that work?
Hey Madge: It looks like I can be this weekend from Friday afternoon to Monday afternoon (not that you have to amuse me the WHOLE time). Will you be there this weekend then? Please confirm and I’ll book. Cheers.
Madge, I’m booked. Hope to you see you on Friday. Can you send some contact numbers to my e-mail–check yours, I e-mailed you this morning, whore.
So looking forward to seeing you. xxso
Madge, If you’ve listened to any of my shows or read any of my blog posts you know that I am well aware that this nation had it coming to them, and that if people would put themselves in the position of the rest of the world and think about how our capitalistic imperialism has basically driven people to madness they would understand the motives behind september 11th. However, I cannot seem to stomach your guest’s (Amy Abdou) statement that she was totally unaffected by 9-11 and went about her business like it was any other day. “I have to tell you…September 11th, I really didn’t have that feeling of shock. I kind just went…(sarcastic sigh).” I would like to know if Amy is capable of feeling anything if she didn’t feel something, anything on that day. Any human being with a heart had to have felt something on that day, how could she be “not shocked?” I don’t know if her incredulity to your reaction to 9-11 is intended to impress people but I can say that I for one am not impressed with, what is in my opinion, her faux enlightenment and most of all her frigidity.
Yes, terrible things happen all over the world every day. Yes, there are events that happen all over the world that should be covered more closely and people should be more upset about genocide in Darfur and our nations inability to protect its citizenry from natural disaster. But to say that what happened on 9-11 was less of a deal than all of the other things that happen in the world is myopic and naive. ALL of these terrible things deserve equal attention and equal outrage because they are all crimes against humanity. Perhaps when Amy comes down from her ivory tower she’ll begin to see all tragedies with an unprejudiced eye.
“Thats my biggest frustration when I go home. That there are like minded people but they can’t get motivated to do anything.” Doing things like what? Like moving to another country and then saying how voting is a joke right before you inform us of your plans to go to a spa in Thailand to get a colonic.
“Its very interesting how the reaction of 2000 white businessmen getting killed is so different from 100000 poor Indonesians or black people for that matter in Louisiana.”
-Madge Weinstein
WTF?! Its all the same, its horrible tragic death and its beyond race, class, sexuality, and boundaries. Stop catagorizing human life, all lives lost are valuable and none should be ranked more than the other. You have the power to do good by bringing attention to these horrible events that don’t get attention and motivate your listeners to care about ALL human beings.
Adam,
We are just telling our opinions and feelings on these matters. I dont’ really put much value in arguments against people’s such subjective things. I am glad that Amy is able to offer her opinions without the fear of being called unpatriotic which I imagine she might have been more likely to succumb to had she stayed in the U.S.
As for me, I stand by that quote you wrote of me. I think you’re not understanding the meaning of my words. We are in agreement that all life is equal. I have no argument there. How you interpret my words to not mean what I meant is beyond me.
So anyway. You really don’t know Amy. I do. She is a realy human- just as real as you or I and just as sensitive. Her opinions are different and that doesn’t make her a vapid monster, even if she does get her colon rinsed every now and again.
Adam, I think it’s funny that you’re basically calling Amy Abdou myopic and naive because she didn’t respond to the events of 9/11 in the same way that you did, which seems far more myopic of you–if you even felt that way. The way that 9/11 has been cynically packaged and utilised by the Bush administration to meet their own ends, it’s hard to believe that five years on anyone could believe that your tub-thumping depiction has any purity as an emotional response. Your post here is really the web equivalent of a redneck in Ohio driving their pick-up all over someone’s lawn just because they had a John Kerry sign posted in their front yard. It’s as if you need people like Amy to feel something because, deep down inside, you know you don’t.
Shock and numbness are very common in traumatic situations, among other responses; what Amy really expressed was a disbelief and lack of engagement, something a lot of people felt, certainly after the so-called election in 2000. For a lot of us, 9/11 was just the other shoe that we were anticipating would drop. She expressed her response to an event, she didn’t claim to be void of any sorrow towards those who died or wish them ill. And considering the events that it triggered, she expressed a bafflement that is quite common for thinking people: how did they get to here…from there? Why did the deaths of 3,000 people necessitate the further death of 100s of 1000s more…? All credit to Amy but I don’t think that particular view marks her out as beyond the fringe or even beyond the pale, as you would have it.
And I think Amy and Madge beat you to the punch on her “sociopathic disengagement” to the event. In times like these, it’s best not to lose your sense of humour.
And as for voting? It is a joke, of course. Voting is like playing your part in maintaining the illusion of democracy; when there’s no veracity, what’s the point? Americans don’t care. They’re content to watch the drama as it unfolds but actually participate, demonstrate, riot? Now you’re joking.
I think it rather presumptious to tell me what I feel deep down inside soleil. Most of my family lives in NYC, I had cousins that worked in the WTC. As a child growing up in NYC I used to look out from Staten Island to Manhattan and just stare in awe at the skyline, it meant a lot to me. To tell me that I didn’t feel anything, and that I don’t feel anything and that I need Amy to feel for me is utterly absurd and off the mark. I felt so much on that day and I still feel and long before the people in middle of the country were told to feel by the administration as a way to rally support for the illegal war in Iraq.
Now you’re all doing a lot of finger pointing and saying that voting in a joke and that democracy is an illusion, so what are you suggestions for change? You are all very intelligent informed people but all you have to offer is advice on A. how to flee america and B. what the root of all this is. That has its place and its valid but lets do something about the terrible things in this world and lets try and change them rather than running away and turning around shaking our heads going tsk tsk tsk and playing the blame game.
I think the blogging / podcasting / universal conversation thing is working.
In this conversation we have no less than four participants and with each with a different perspective probably due to geographic location, life experiences and even level of paranoia and anxiety. The beautiful thing about this is with all of these different perspectives we ALL get a better handle on what the problem actually is as opposed to getting it from only one side, hence defeating the efforts of those who wish to unfairly and unjustly control the masses.
Argue some more because with this intelligent and civil arguing we receive global understanding and awareness.
I don’t think justification of your response to 9/11 is required. Nor do I understand why you feel the need to wield it like a weapon and oppress others with it.
I don’t believe it is my duty to resolve the mess that is the result of decades of American imperialism–that burden falls squarely on Bicycle Mark’s shoulders.
Lastly, in terms of advice, I would borrow from the great poet Virgil and say: “Hope on, and save yourself for prosperous times.”
Who dere call ma name?
Seriously.. I agree this whole shit falls on my shoulders. I promise to do what I can to fix america from the outside.
On 9/11.. my neighborhood collected toothpaste, gloves, surgical masks, jackets, disposable razors, and powerbars. And then the EMT’s or someone drove them across the river to the WTC site.
I was tempted to start brushing my teeth and eat up all the power bars.
Thats my story for tonight.
Sorry Madge, I’m all over this board. I really loved this show. Amy sounds like Annie Hall and she was a great contributor; funny, warm, human, intelligent, honest, direct…in a word, lovely.
This is why I is love that fat bitch Madge so much! Good topic that get many response, encourage opening of dialog, and present many future discussion. Not sure if purple is your color though. Keep up your good work Madge, Adam, Soneil, and Mike C.!
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